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Mariusz Liśkiewicz and Kwestura, Paris 2007. By Urszula Sawicka
Mariusz Liśkiewicz and Kwestura, Paris 2007. By Urszula Sawicka
„It is not worthwhile imitating me”, hear students, applicants for the post of show presenter, of MARIUSZ LIŚKIEWICZ, the manager of Michałów Stud’s training stable, trainer and handler of Arabian horses, who returned with the title of “Best” from domestic and foreign championships many times. He received the prestigious Presenters Trophy awarded during the All Nations Cup in Aachen (Germany) in 2002, while last year in Paris he won the World Championships with Kwestura.

Liked by all, he endears with modesty and warmth, willingly sharing his knowledge and experience.

„I advise beginners what I myself once heard from a good trainer, Mr. Andrzej Orłoś, when I was still absorbed with horse riding. At an instructors course (I have qualifications of a Polish Equine Federation sport instructor) he instilled a principle in me: do not imitate blindly all that a given trainer does, even if he achieves fantastic results. Rather try picking, from a couple of different experts which you admire, their best traits and implement them into your own form of training. I say the same to the young people in relation to myself: listen, do you like what I do? Does it make sense? Then take that from me. But don’t copy my every move. Because training horses is a combination of sign language and body language.”

Mariusz Liśkiewicz with Ejrene, Polish Nationals 2007 in Janów Podlaski. By Katarzyna Dolińska
Mariusz Liśkiewicz with Ejrene, Polish Nationals 2007 in Janów Podlaski. By Katarzyna Dolińska
Anna Stojanowska, an international judge, says: „Mariusz has this saying, which is disarming: “I don’t do anything, I just hold the end of the rope!” I was moved nearly to tears last year, when I watched the mare Ejrene from Michałów. In Białka she was shown by Stuart Colvin – very correctly, after all she won the championships. However two months later, in Janów, she entered the arena with Mariusz Liśkiewicz – and it wasn’t the same horse! Their mutual understanding was incredible! It was evident that the mare moves her foot by a centimeter only to please the handler and that she is doing it willingly. He spoke something to her quietly and she stroke a pose “all by herself”. Within two months two different people “held the end of the rope” and the difference was huge, visible to the naked eye”.

Other handlers speak about Mariusz Liśkiewicz with admiration: „I would like to be in a position to be able to enter the arena as many times as Mr. Mariusz Liśkiewicz”, says Marek Demczuk. “He is a true authority for me. He impresses me with his work, the engagement in what he does. He is also great as a friend, not keeping his phenomenal knowledge to himself, but sharing advice when needed”.

„He is an example for me”, chimes in Szymon Głowacki. “I consider him to be one of the greatest handlers in the world. You can learn a lot from him, especially since he is very open to conversation”.

Mariusz Liśkiewicz prezents Grafik, Verona 2007. By Mateusz Jaworski
Mariusz Liśkiewicz prezents Grafik, Verona 2007. By Mateusz Jaworski
„Positioning a horse is done by the language of my body, my hand, leg, chest, the raising of the whip, lowering the whip, raising the whip, lowering it down”, explains Mariusz Liśkiewicz. “Signals by which I communicate with the horse. And not all of my signals must mean the same thing with a different trainer. Consistency is the only important factor – that every signal is identical every time and means only one command. People have many problems with that. For example they pull the horse forward, wanting him to follow them. They back up, facing the animal. But afterwards they make this mistake. They stop him and pull him forward again, so that he would stand wider in the front. And he doesn’t want to do that. It’s because the same signal means two things: “follow me” and “wider in the front”. It is not understandable for the horse. I do it this way: I pull forward, meaning “follow me”. But when I want him to move the front, I pull him both forward and to the left or right – he then knows that the hind stays where it is and only the front moves. Because that is a bit of a different signal. Or “give me some neck”. This can’t be just pulling the horse by the rope again, because it will confuse the animal. It has to be combined with the raising of the whip, my approach, to have the horse go up. And again you have to be consistent: if you raise both hands, then always do it that way. If you don’t want to do it that way, then let that command be associated with the raising of one hand. The horse will do whatever he is taught. Most importantly do not give him two commands with the same signal”.

From Ekstern to El Dorada

Mariusz Liśkiewicz and Zagrobla, Verona 2007. By Mateusz Jaworski
Mariusz Liśkiewicz and Zagrobla, Verona 2007. By Mateusz Jaworski
Mariusz Liśkiewicz had no idea about training nuances when he scored his first success on the arena in the mid 90s. Ekstern, dark grey at the time, an undersized yearling, unexpectedly won the Polish Junior Championships.

„At the time there were such great trainers and handlers as Tadeusz Wojtal, Scott Benjamin, Krystyna Podlejska, Lucjan Kulczyński”, he reminisces. “We were showing more than a dozen colts. The competition was strong, the best Monogramm get: Ganges, Emanor. Edeon was also considered a sure winner. The inconspicuous Ekstern, considered first to get the axe, was given to me at random. I did not train him for the shows and prior to Białka I had him perhaps five times in my hand. We ran onto the arena. He stopped somehow. How I accomplished that, I don’t remember. He moved remarkably, I tried not to interfere and all the judges gave him 20s for movement. The competition was extremely strong, and still he won. That’s when something hit me: maybe I will be doing this! Although I hadn’t the slightest idea about training itself”.

Later a long road led Mariusz Liśkiewicz from that first win to the world successes of his favorite El Dorada, which he calls “the horse of his life”. Just as long was the earlier road of a boy from Krasnystaw until the day he took a liking to this discipline thanks to Ekstern.

As he admits, the love for horses is in his genes, inherited from his mother. She was an Animal Husbandry graduate and worked as a teacher at the local agricultural technical college. As part of the animal breeding program she went with each class to the nearby Białka, so that the students could see for themselves how a depot looks like and functions. At the same time they met with the director, then Kazimierz Guziuk. Those were the first contacts with real breeding, not accessible at that time to regular people.

„I liked it so much that I began going to Białka as a volunteer. At that time there was no riding school, you didn’t pay for riding. But if someone wanted to learn, then from seven to nine in the morning were riding lessons, which you “paid for” later cleaning the stallions. That way I managed to get myself in”.

Mariusz Liśkiewicz in Białka, western style. By Urszula Sawicka
Mariusz Liśkiewicz in Białka, western style. By Urszula Sawicka
Later, while studying geography, after the instructor exam, he ran the “Almatur” Tourism Office in Białka in the summer. A vacation for free and a favorite activity in one: he could devote himself to horse riding.

The trend at the time was show jumping. In 1984 Liśkiewicz competed in regional events and got into the Polish National Student Team. The representation went to Lundt in Sweden for the unofficial student championships. Individually he placed second. It was his first sport achievement. A year later he competed in the Polish students’ championships in dressage, in 1986 he took first place in team show jumping.

„And when Arabian horses appeared in Białka, we started doing endurance”, he recounts. “We did pretty well in the beginning, because we even had some titles of Polish Champion pop in. I was always just close. For example at the first official Polish Championships in Endurance Racing in 1990 I rode atop the stallion Borysław. Two days at 100 km each. After the first day I had an advantage of about 20 minutes. All I had to do was to ride past the finish line the next day with the other horses (not later than that contestant who finished that part at second place) to win. And the horse went lame 30 km before the finish line. I was disqualified. The stallion returned to the stable and… he was not lame anymore. We competed a lot at that time, with Jerzy Urbański, Wojciech Kowalik among others. We went to the World Endurance Championships in Spain, European Championships in England, Switzerland”.

Mariusz Liśkiewicz in Białka, western style. By Urszula Sawicka
Mariusz Liśkiewicz in Białka, western style. By Urszula Sawicka
He met with the training of horses for shows for the first time in Janów Podlaski, where he worked for two years at the beginning of the 90s. He still did endurance and in the meantime saw how those horses “enchant”. A bronze medal at the 4th Polish Championships in 1993, when Liśkiewicz under Janów’s flag rode atop Faktor, property of Michałów Stud, opened new job opportunities for him. He accepted the offer and starting from the 1st of January, 1994 he employed himself at Michałów Stud. He still rode endurance horses. Even after the unexpected success of Ekstern the situation did not change radically for another couple of years.

„Each year I presented a small group of horses. From time to time as an additional job I received a couple which had to be trained to match the skills of the others in the show group. It was only in the years 1998-1999 that I began training a larger number of them”, he explains.

He trains Arabian horses for shows professionally since 2000. That’s when the “Monogramms” trained and shown by him surfaced at the international arenas. He stopped doing endurance.

„I stumbled across a group of really good horses”, he admits. „They began competing already five years earlier, but then the Polish Championships were the limit. Young horses seldom journeyed abroad. They started being noticeable in the world only just from 1999”.

From that moment Michałów’s brand became enriched with a new, recognizable asset – a trainer, who today is a brand all by himself.

Training in the USA

Mariusz Liśkiewicz with Esparto, Paris 2006. By Erwin Escher
Mariusz Liśkiewicz with Esparto, Paris 2006. By Erwin Escher
The breakthrough year of 2000 came right after the first of the three trips to the States for training purposes. At the Feature Farm in Washington Jerzy “George” Zbyszewski taught him the basics of American training. Western riding and English Pleasure were conducted at the same place where the leased stallion Emanor was trained for showing.

„The entire conditioning and training was done by Jerzy Zbyszewski with his assistants”, reminisces Liśkiewicz. “After the end of my chores I observed from the side what they do and why. Then I asked why this way and not differently, because I was used to the European style”.

The second meeting with training in American style came a couple of years later at Greg Gallun’s farm in Santa Ynez. A different climate, different conditions, a swimming pool for horses, training strictly for showing in hand (halter classes). During January and February Liśkiewicz observed day by day the final touches of a year’s preparation of about 30 horses for the biggest show of the year in Scottsdale, which commences the American season.

„The style of training was different, stronger. Greg is a professional of the highest league and I very much liked what he did, how the horses positioned for him. We could speak a long time about his methods, but regardless to what many think they are not so drastic. It is a hard school, more German than American. But he will never hit a horse, no matter what. If the animal does something really wrong and repeats it a couple of times, it will be punished, but it is not as people would think “a short rope and long whip”: that for every disobedience or mistake there is a punishment. The consistency of this guy is truly admirable. I saw the effects later in the training, also taking active part in it.”

The third visit to the US, second at Greg’s, was of a completely different nature.

Mariusz Liśkiewicz with Palmira in Janów Podlaski 2007, by Sylwia Iłenda
Mariusz Liśkiewicz with Palmira in Janów Podlaski 2007, by Sylwia Iłenda
„The previous one had some feeling of reserve around it, because I was a stranger in the barn and in the house. But when he won the US Championships with Kwestura, he became more open about cooperating with Michałów. We grew fond of each other, as I lived at his place, which is also something that creates favorable conditions to get to know one another better. From my previous stay I also knew his horses, barns, work cycle, the employed Mexicans. This time all ice was broken, so to speak. And it was that fantastic year: El Dorada, Pianissima… My visits in the States made me realize among others the difference about how a horse works on the lunge – where he can’t relax his neck, move his head, because I’m constantly holding him and he must bend to the inside. There the horse runs freely inside the pen, without a lunge. Though also non-stop bent to the inside – but he has freedom of the head, he can go up or down with it, he can bend to the right when running left. He has more freedom than on a traditional lunge. These are nuances, which correctly applied give effects later on.”

What he doesn’t like in the American system is the lack of separate points for movement. Horses trained in such a way, if they give their 100% in the pose, they lose about 30% of their moving abilities. In other words a horse “done” in American style, which normally would move for a 20 point mark, in this case would receive a 19. Because incomparably more time is spent there on perfecting that ideal “pose” and also because of the respect which the Americans implement in the horses, more so than you would see in Europe.

Jerzy Białobok and Mariusz Liśkiewicz. Pistoria's decoration, Verona 2007. By Mateusz Jaworski
Jerzy Białobok and Mariusz Liśkiewicz. Pistoria’s decoration, Verona 2007. By Mateusz Jaworski
„Here lies the entire secret of cooperating with the horse. Does that horse fear me, does he respect me, or perhaps he pays me too little attention”, gives away Liśkiewicz. “Acquiring this is just a matter of experience. In Michałów each year I start working from scratch with about 25 yearlings! If I am able to develop that golden mean with the horse, then he will pose correctly and after that moment of maximum concentration and tension, which is required to keep that statue pose, at the applause of the audience he will be able to blast like a dynamite with the first beat.”

Jerzy Białobok, director of Michałów Stud, sums it all up: ”Mariusz’s success is the result of the fortunate meeting of a skillful, hard-working and responsible man and superb Michałów horses. At the show he literally blends in with the horse, like a good rider with his steed. For this work you need to have a gift from God and be stronger mentally than the horse – to impose on him your will with the force of your actions, which has nothing to do with the strength of the whip. Mariusz has that talent and keeps on honing it. At the stud we dealt with tens of people who wanted this job, but few have such inner willpower as him.”

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